Wednesday, August 16, 2017

Goebbels: Nazi Propaganda Genius w/ BPD.



Joseph Goebbels in my personal opinion was not your typical psychopath, and as such I should perhaps not have chosen to write an article inspired by the documentary I have included here.

I have watched a number of biographical articles about the leading personalities during WWII, including Hermann Goering who was clearly a psychopath, as was Adolf Hitler himself.

But if I should point to one person from that era who fits the typical description - indeed he is a textbook example - of a psychopath, it would be... no, it is ...Benito Mussolini (click the link to a watch a biographic documentary about him).


But here I will start out with a few observations that I made about Goebbels:

High strung, Deeply Romantic, Fatalistic world view, switching between euphoric fantasy optimism and deeply depressed hopelessness. I would argue that he shows signs of Borderline Personality Disorder, definitely Co-Dependent PD (which often follows with BPD) and I wonder if perhaps he had a touch of Bipolar Disorder as well.

He also appears to have had a certain tendency towards self pity which grew more obvious over the years as his power increases and he felt more secure in his position as a trusted member of the inner circle. I also sense that he may have had something of a tendency towards Hypochondria although the nature of his career and lifestyle left little room for such a potential flaw to develop into an actual disorder.

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 NB. Please note that I am no expert in these two conditions, I have only been researching them
 for lightly less than 6 months and so my assessment may be wrong.

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Goebbels was clearly ahead of his time where the potential for manipulative abuse of mass media is concerned. You could perhaps even say that he laid the corner stone to what would become the order of the day from then on and through till today where the media are still used according to prior laid out and carefully conducted plans created for this very purpose[1*] - which at the end of the day is, and always was, about ultimate power. Wealth alone is but a means to that end.

But I'm not saying anything new here. You don't have to be a psychopath - diagnosed or otherwise - to see through all of this and to understand what the implications are - although your schooling and upbringing can and does in many cases clearly present obstacles particularly for the majority of what we call the ordinary mainstream population. But that too is part of the 'plot'...

And there you have it: Everything you need in order to deem me a paranoid conspiracy monger, it is all right there in the text here above....But I don't see myself that way at all.

I think of myself as a pragmatist.

The fact that I know a minority of powerful and wealthy people around the world wants to make their global influence complete does not come as a shock, it doesn't seem new or unthinkable to me and I don't feel morally alarmed.

Being morally appalled and alarmed will not help us and is a waste of energy. We should instead focus our energy towards solving the problems that this and other global issues present for us, our future and the future of our offspring.

I'm not suggesting people shouldn't feel anything or that they should deny their feelings, but I suggest that they shouldn't dwell on them excessively, meaning beyond what their nature requires in order for them to move on without carrying issues with them subconsciously which haven't been dealt with and solved, given a chance to heal enough for the individual to move on and avoid permanent suffering and hindrance.


My true wish is that people around the world will acknowledge how the reality that we all live in looks - which includes us all, normal people, psychopaths, and all variations of personality types between and outside of the two, that we can meet and put our forces together about finding a way by which through our combined efforts will enable the creation of the best and most positive outcome for everybody.

I do not believe in retreating into the mindset of seeking bloody vengeance so we can re-enact yet another historic version of '"the heroic common population who through a revolution of bloody sacrifice and suffering overcame and hunted down the abusive elite, put them on trial and brought them to justice in the form of public hangings and beheadings".

Bloody sacrifice and suffering may be necessary at certain times in the history of man, but we should explore every possibility of a different path before choosing violence.

To put it short: I don't believe in repeating the past, and the reason for this is that it has been proven again and again that when we followed that path in the past we did not produce the results we were seeking, it simply didn't work or at least did not work efficiently enough and it is therefore now time for us to learn from our past mistakes and find long term solutions that produces better results.


A tentative idea of mine is for the 'normal' majority of people who are often too emotionally governed and the minority of psychopaths who are often too unemotional and governed by intellect alone, to meet and find out together how to put the greatest strengths of each of our personality types to use as a combined whole where one is not left out in favor of the other...

And I assure you that quite contrary to common popular belief the majority of psychopaths are not criminal or even emotional predators. By far the most psychopaths function as constructive contributing members of society, they favor justice and enjoy making others happy[2*], they don't abuse or beat their wives and do not commit fraud or steal from their superiors and colleagues at work.

Such psychopaths could play a very important role in helping society deal with the widespread problem in business, politics and economy that we see today. Where most normal people would eventually back down from pursuing exposure of abusive and fraudulent psychopaths in powerful positions throughout society, psychopathic individuals would - for reasons which you can find descriptions of in articles throughout my website - not be easily, if at all, dissuaded.

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[1*] - Of course the 'unprecedented use of media for propaganda purposes' is a truth with modifications since propaganda is nothing new at the time of WWII. It has been in use for centuries, even thousands of years and further back to the so called prehistoric times that precede our current era's track of time which for the most of Western civilization follows the Christian calendar. - So while propaganda was not new and Goebbels almost certainly had access to documents showing how propagandists working for other rulers through history, his was not a completely unique "contribution" to the "art of Propaganda", but there's also no doubt that he did indeed have a special talent for this particular kind of work.

[2*] - if you don't believe me, read the first greater, thoroughly conducted study of psychopaths conducted by Hervey Cleckley who wrote and published a book in which he described his findings and his thoughts, doubts, hopes and ideas: The Mask of Sanity (Click the link to read the book Online or download in PDF format).

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nice to have you back.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I'm glad to see your health is apparently doing better.

You eluded in this post to the idea that it would be in the best interest of our society to consider the psychopathic personality type to try to find societally-approved applications or jobs where psychopaths would do exceptionally well and gives them the dignity of an income and self-reliance. There’s a great need where I live for people to be able to call someone to come out and act as a rational, level-headed third party who they don’t have to fear will get them thrown into jail unfairly and won’t just shoot them dead at the slightest provocation when a tense domestic dispute arises. (By "unfairly" I mean there are situations I’ve heard of where I live, for example, where a woman calls the cops on her husband because he started beating her or destroying their stuff and then tells the police when they get there that she doesn't want him to be taken to jail, rather only to have the situation de-escalated, but the police won't listen to her and convict her husband (and in this case her as well) anyway, against both of their wishes.) There's a lot of talk over here about "police reform" which essentially amounts to making the police less armed, more trained in conflict mitigation, and less likely to leave a criminal record with the involved parties, but the police are reluctant because they're basically too scared and it's a big social issue.

It seems that if there was a recognized, socially acceptable means for someone to call a “pre-law enforcement” task force to go into really tense domestic disputes and de-escalate them with the promise of never serving as witnesses to the scenes they go to, never calling the police, and never being armed, if psychopathic former convicts were trained and paid well to do this type of work if they would ever be genuinely motivated to that type of work. One of the biggest parts of my governor's platform is reducing criminal recidivism, but there are few professions where people are comfortable hiring a former convict. However, it seems that people in really tense situations don't really care if the person who shows up has ever killed someone previously themselves. In fact it could lend some credibility in situations where someone is about to kill someone else and the person who shows up is trying to prevent it.

So two questions:

1. Do you think other former convicts, particularly psychopathic ones, who are struggling to get decent pay after being released from incarceration would be a decent fit for this type of work, or not? And if not, then why not?

2. Just before you were going to commit the crimes that you did, if someone who was as deeply psychopathic as you, who had previously gone to jail for doing what you were about to do, and who you knew wasn't going to serve as witness or try to get you put into jail for whatever they stumbled upon when they got there, showed up at the right moment because someone was able to call a conflict mitigator in time, do you think there's any way that the mitigator could have persuaded you to taking less harmful actions than what you did?

Just an idea I've been mulling over, inspired by the interesting portrayal of psychopathy that I've encountered on this blog. Thanks.

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

Anon, Aug. 17, 2017:

Nice to have you back.

Thank you, it's nice to be back. '^L^,

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

Anon Aug. 17, 217 - 7:30PM:

Yes, I'm glad to see your health is apparently doing better.

Thank you for your kind words. However, my health is not doing better, it is doing worse.

The positive prospect that I now have for the very first time during my years in this state is that on the meeting this upcoming Monday it may be decided that they will honor their constitution of all residing civilians' right to have the necessary treatment and surgery done which - if they follow up on it - will allow me to get back in good physical shape.

In short: It will put me back on the map as an existing human being and I will regain my ability to participate in every legal enterprise and non-profit activity as well as make a living for myself, for associates and friends, and for what I hope to be a future family.

I would reply to your comment in whole, but I don't have the time to do so right now and will therefore have to postpone. But I will respond as soon as I am able, so check back later today or perhaps tomorrow. '^L^,

Anonymous said...

Good luck for a successful outcome to Monday's meeting. About high time you got the treatment that is your right but you have been denied and had to fight tooth and nail for. Shame on them!

Please let us know how it goes.

Anonymous said...



"I have watched a number of biographical articles about the leading personalities during WWII, including Hermann Goering who was clearly a psychopath, as was Adolf Hitler himself" Funnily enough Hitler is one of the dictators of the 20th century who most mental health professionals don't think was a psychopath. Indeed he has been diagnosed (remotely) with everything from schizophrenia to aspergers to "dangerous leader disorder". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathography_of_Adolf_Hitler
Also "The German philosopher Hannah Arendt, who attended the trial of Adolf Eichmann (picture) in 1961, found that the willingness to commit genocide can be entirely compatible with good mental health."

"And I assure you that quite contrary to common popular belief the majority of psychopaths are not criminal or even emotion predators" It's part of the diagnosis.

" By far the most psychopaths function as constructive contributing members of society, they favor justice and enjoy making others happy[2*], they don't abuse or beat their wives and do not commit fraud or steal from their superiors and colleagues at work." If that was true then Cleckleys psychopathic patients wouldn't regularly have ended up in mental institutions and prisons.

"Such psychopaths could play a very important role in helping society deal with the widespread problem in business, politics and economy that we see today. Where most normal people would eventually back down from pursuing exposure of abusive and fraudulent psychopaths in powerful positions throughout society, psychopathic individuals would - for reasons which you can find descriptions of in articles throughout my website - not be easily, if at all, dissuaded." Because somebody has a similar genetic makeup/temperament doesn't mean they are psychopaths, sharing some features or traits of a disorder is not the same as having a full blown disorder. E.g many celebrities are narcissistic but that doesn't mean they have a fully blown narcissistic personality disorder (which is a very different thing).

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

Hello guys,

This is just a notice to tell you that I have left two comments by my newest article: 'Hidden Life: The Good Psychopath's Curse.'.

Some of the text is for you and concerns the replies I've planned to leave on this page, so I would urge you to check it out.