Tuesday, March 22, 2016

Logic Of A Good Psychopath.



Spot on, Mr. Hitchens!

When a psychopath finds himself saying about another that they give psychopaths a worse name than we already have, you know it's got to be REALLY bad.

..........

I have been asked why I, as a psychopath, care about doing 'something good'. I have also tried to answer but perhaps not as clear as I would want to, so here below is an example of my reasoning and how it in my opinion leads naturally to the conclusion that what is good for me is good for everybody - in the long run, at least.

There is undeniably a shift from the more immediate presence oriented gratification seeking which ruled my motivation during my teens and earlier adulthood, but - as I believe I have stated elsewhere - there is also an element of me wanting to try something new which - combined with all that I have learned over the past 5-6 years since I began looking deeper into what kind of person I am and how it affects not only my past but also the possibilities for my future - has lead to what I guess I will call a wider perspective that allows me to include more elements into my considerations when I decide what kind of achievement to aim for and with which approach to do so.

I hope the following gives some insight into my thinking and how I form what to me are logical conclusions.

As for welfare, I believe it's possible to find a place between zero aid and completely giving over all your money and freedom of choice in exchange for an illusion of complete security (as we see it done in some Northern European countries).

I believe medical aid, schools and minimum wage should be available to everybody regardless of economical or social status. If we don't make sure to provide these basic things we'll miss out on a lot of people who could have grown up to become acknowledged as great geniuses and the country's greatest contributors. Without these basic rights things like mere survival, good health and education would simply be passed down almost exclusively within the families of those who are wealthy and rich, but there's no reason to expect the most ingenious and talented people to be born in these families more than they do in any other group of society.

Some will argue that genes run within families, but propensity for developing skill, gaining knowledge and for using these in a way that contributes to and helps the country has only little to do with genetics but a good deal more with a combination of nurture, circumstance and chance. It has furthermore been proven that goodwill and consideration toward others is more often found and taught within less well to do groups in society (for obvious reasons).

So for the sake of the country and thereby for the individual citizen's chance and freedom to pursue personal happiness, we have better take providing fundamental circumstances that allow for everyone to acquire medical aid and education into consideration since it will benefit each of us, not only in terms of personal survival here and now in the form of achievement and wealth, but also in terms of a more long term survival in the form of passing on our genes, and finally in terms of the country's survival and thereby the best possible circumstances for our families to thrive and continue our legacy.

43 comments:

John Nutt said...

I believe the strong individuals if left unconstrained would pursue their own selfish ends with no regard for the welfare of other people. For example in ancient times and in "primitive" society's the man or men who holds the wealth and status gets to breed indeed warlords and ancient kings like gengis Khan is said to have had thousands of concubines. However their is a catch the weak individuals heavily outnumber the strong individuals. So the weak invented morality to protect themselves and to constrain the strong. So now - in most cases anyway and at least to some degree - the strong agree to give up certain powers to benefit from living in a civilised society. So for instance the poor have their basic needs paid for and are allowed to breed. So I agree with Nietzsche theory that "morality" is simply a defence mechanism that encourages the weak individuals to bond together to protect themselves from (and to manipulate) stronger predators.

Ana said...

That's more intelligent than anything that has come out of the GOP candidates (and Clinton). But why would you want that for people? Why would you be concerned about their well being? Shouldn't a psychopath be selfish, and not care about others? What led you to have the belief that people should receive government aid?

And, on the topic of the US elections, what are your opinions on both the GOP candidates and the democratic candidates? Do any appeal to you? Or do you think that they are all terrible? I understand if you don't want to answer that because it is a rather controversial topic. But I wanted to see the elections from a different perspective (even though it does not affect me). Thanks. Bye. :)

Anonymous said...

Quick question.
How do psychopaths feel when they find out they're being lied to? Do they take it personally as normal people do, is it to be expected or would they be furious and despise the person for doing so? What about vengeance and revenge? Will that follow up?

Anonymous said...

@Anon 7:40
If you want a psychopathic perspective of the elections: Donald Trump is a narcisstic psychopath, Clinton and Cruz are sociopath, and contrast that to normal people like Kasich and Senator Sanders.

Ana said...

@Anon 4:56
I agree with your judgment of Trump, Clinton, Cruz and Sanders, but why would you think that Kasich is "normal"? Sure, he might seem like a moderate in the GOP with Trump and Cruz, but he is not nice. If there was any normal person in the GOP, in my opinion, it would be Rand Paul.

MMS said...

Even though you're not around Zhawq, you still cause me to reflect.

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

March 22.-16, 7:09AM - John Nutt:

John,

you do post some good questions, and in this case I will want to answer thoroughly so I have decided to reply by writing an article where I address as best I can the questions and issues that you pose.

I have already written the article, I only need to do some editing and make some finishing touches before it gets published. - So look out for it or keep an eye on my tweets, because I will as always announce when new articles are up and available for everybody to read.

Let me take this moment to thank you, John Nutt, and others, for making inspiring contributions and posing very interesting questions.

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

I meant to reply to each post on this page now, but I'm finding that I have to take a break.

But I'll be back before you know it. '^L~,

Anonymous said...

My BFF’s husband describes his belief as reductionist. On my last visit he gave me a printed diagram of:
“EVOLUTION OF THE ORGANISM HOMO SAPIENS – A REDUCTIONIST’S VIEWPOINT”
Here are the notes at the bottom of that print-out (since it is possible to print and distribute, I assume quoting is not in contravention of copyright – hopefully)

1. Why Organism? To stress that there is nothing special about being Human. We are simply very complex Organisms.
2. Our entire evolution can be explained by the laws of Science. No Supernatural intervention is necessary.
3. Religion and Morality are entirely man made constructs. There is there no absolute morality, only morality within a particular society and time period. “

I am currently researching to see whether or how this relates to with Richard Dawkin’s “The Selfish Gene” so well illustrated by this clip, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9p2F2oa0_k. (only just over 4 minutes and worth going to if you are interested, Zhawq)

Looking forward to the article you intend publishing soon to see what perspectives of yours fit in (or don’t).

Pixi

Anonymous said...

Hi, I'm not sure what I am. I never feel pity for people only animals. I can feel love but not constantly for the same person. Some days a switch goes off and I feel absolutely nothing for someone I thought I love. I feel a connection to very, very few people. I do feel emotions rejection n anger are the ones I feel the most. I don't know if I empathize but I do sometimes feel bad for someone in terms of thinking what happened to them was unfair aka unwarranted. I do feel a craving for attention from people but thats solely to entertain myself.

Anonymous said...

Hello, Zhawq.

I've been on here for awhile now, and I'm halfway through reading all your posts. I find them understandable, respectable, some a bit funny and mostly agreeable. They're fun to read, I must say.

Unlike you, I am not diagnosed with anything. Not that I have been to a consultation before. And quite frankly, I do not care if I am. Neither do I have any criminal records. Perhaps, it was because I had a decent upbringing and that I always get my way without exerting violence, but I do have strange interests and curiosity. The kind that I can't speak openly about or with anyone, really. I don't know if they are neurotypical thoughts, you see.

I like blood. How it looks, smell and tastes. And I have pondered on how murder would feel like many, many times already. If I chose to kill someone, would I be driven to kill another? The drive must be insanely good. It must be enticing, I think. I know it is. Inflicting pain is not something I feel badly for, but I don't do it since it does not fit my 'image' and I'm not required to most of the time. I have to say, it is rather boring; hiding, but I've got a reputation to maintain and the thought of staying in prison and whatnot does not amuse me. Although, I would like to enter one. Maybe as a visitor, and not a cell-mate. When I'm surrounded, I never quite feel like myself. It's like being forced to wear a mask. When I so much as become a tad bit as my true self, people avoid me. I do not like it, but I see no other choice, but to pretend.

I don't suspect that I am alone on this one? Or am I? I'm not so sure since I don't know what other people think of, but I really am curious in many things that includes death. And one of my biggest fear (should I call it that? I don't know. I'm not scared, I just don't want it to happen.) is my inability to continue with this facade. I might become more impulsive and lose control over myself. I might do things and take pride in them. I might find a hobby.

I sure hope I'm not alone on this one.

Yours sincerely,
Alias.

Anonymous said...

Your choice of image for the article "Psychopathic Murder Writings. (Part 2)" in January 2012 says more about what lies behind this gentle mask of yours than most of the facts you selected to write about do. The message is loud and clear.

Anonymous said...

Zhawq, you started your writings in Oct 2010, that's five and a half years and still attracting readers and comments. Quite an achievement!
BG

victimoffate said...

My mother is a bitch. My father is a killer

https://youtu.be/J2t0q0SF63w

Anonymous said...

Most of the politicians are NOT Psychopaths as is commonly thought but instead Malignant Narcissists.

Hitchens (deceased) is in a long line of Zionist Gatekeepers - always subtle pushing the agenda while never telling any real truths like the politicians both left and right are all bought and paid for puppets, or that 9/11 was an inside job. In fact he was very much for war with Iraq (in which over 1 million died)not very liberal! Regardless of which puppet is in power the deep state continues its program relentlessly... More immigration, more wars, more drugs and on and on..

Malignant Narcissism is very prevalent amongst the Zionists. Normal people are in denial and act like a piece of prey towards these predators. Malignant Narcissists have the GOD complex and in the case of the Zionists want to rule/ control the word.

There is a world of difference between Malignant Narcissism and Psychopathy even though they can appear as having some similarities.

Marie said...

I've commented on this blog (but on anon) about something related to a lawyer being a psychopath and in the same line of thought I have to agree in part with the last comment. However I also have to disagree with the conspiracy theory-like part of it, for it's totally unsupported by any evidence whatsoever.

Anonymous said...

Marie - lawyer is a classic job for a Narcissist. They are addicts addicted to attention. And what better place to get attention, and project power over others than in a court room?

They treat people like cardboard cutouts, and like any addict don't care who's life they ruin - even if its their own!

Check out Ross Rozenburg's YT channel on the subject.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps when deliberating on lawyers, specifically with regard to personality types, one should distinguish between the roles they fill in the legal system. The different branches would likely attract various psychological profiles, for instance those practicing company law, conveyancing, divorce lawyers and so on. And of course some specialize in human rights. But I tend to agree with the views expressed in relation to trial lawyers in general.

Marie said...

The comment I was referring to was talking about psychopathy and lawyers...

Anonymous said...

In my comment I should have said "personality types such as psychopathy" which is what I meant but obviously was not clearly expressed.

Anonymous said...

Just dropping by to say goodbye Zhawq, and thank you for the window into your world without which I could never have reached the understanding I was seeking. - Pixi

Anonymous said...


“This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it.” WHAT???
Whilst fully acknowledging the very significant destructive role religion plays and has done throughout history, taking it out of the equation still leaves a whole list that prevents “the best of all possible worlds”. To mention just a few:
` Racism
` Greed
` Bullying
` War caused by conflict over for instance, territory
` Discrimination and/or oppression non-religiously based. Refusal by society in general to tolerate variances in the human condition is just one of many examples.

Apologies for this rant, but nonsensical sweeping statements annoy me almost as much as religion does. There are innumerable intelligent, valid arguments put forward by atheists, but I fail to see this in that light.

Come ooon Zhawq, where is that perfect objective logic and intellect of yours hiding? Or is this perhaps an example of the tunnel vision psychopaths are said to have a tendency towards when focusing too exclusively?

PS: Not anticipating a response but had to get this off my chest. *huge sigh of relief*

Marie said...

They're talking about the best "possible" world (note the word "possible") not an utopian world. Also, religion, while not the sole cause of all this things (like racism, bullying, greed, war) serves as support for all that in a way or another.

Marie said...

There’s a difference between saying the best possible world and saying an utopian word (a nearly perfect world).

MS said...

What about at least a tweet? Despite you not caring about your readers, some of us remain loyal and have kind thoughts towards you and for your well-being.

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

I have very little time, so this will just be a quickie...

While I can understand why some of my Readers get the impression that I don't care about you, nothing could be farther from the truth. I can only ask you to believe me when I say that I Do care VERY much and not a day goes by that I don't think about how I wish I could post new content right away and reply to the many awesome comments - as well as the ones that don't agree with my views (this is not about being agreed with, after all, it's about getting information out there). I think about your comments every day and I hate that I can't just go home and sit by my computer ans start typing replies.

But that is not the reality I'm in at the moment. I am going through a very rough time these past weeks, and just when I thought I may have gotten past the worst and will have time to start working again, something came up, or something happened, which took me right back into the corner and line of fire with my back against the wall.

The main thing is that I'm not giving up, and I happen to know that most people - psychopaths or otherwise - would have done so at this time if they had been in my position. Right now I'll just have to take consolation in the fact that I KNOW that I'm not giving up and I haven't turned my back on you, my readers, and I hope that those of you who care about what I'm trying to do with this blog will give me the benefit of the doubt if you don't already believe my word.

I have to run - yeah, already! - but I'm sincerely hoping I'll be able to get some work done and articles posted as soon as possible.

So long or - hopefully - so short, guys. '^L^,

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

I just got a phone call, and four more minutes which I'm going to use to tell you that MAYBE I will have 1-2 hours sometime tonight which I can spend here.

I do have material for an article about a subject I know many would like to learn more about, and there are still your comments that I want to reply to. But I think I may - IF these 1-2 hours free time at my PC comes to pass - use the time to write about what's been going on to keep me from posting anything at psychopathicwritings.com these past many weeks...

Time's already up, gotta go. But watch out for an article some time within the next 20 hours or so.

Anonymous said...

Marie
Fair enough, you make a good point in so far as defining ‘the best of all possible worlds” as not verging on an utopian world. Having just re-read my comment, I rather regret it and especially any lack of respect particularly since the quote was from a founding father and I am aware of what patriotism means to so many.
From where I am coming I happen to lean towards somewhat higher expectations of what is and isn’t possible in regard to the human condition, on which each of my arguments were based. But that’s just me, and I am usually more open to seeing the value in the opinions of others (but not when I fail to control those f+++++ impulses).
I don’t want to apologise to Zhawq, since he should know that those of us who follow his posts would not be doing so if they didn’t respect the person he is and see the value in what he does here.
Paula

Anonymous said...

Zawq I must say its quite amusing that you have these people so under your spell. Also it indicates long term planning on your part. However your goal will not be achieved and I think you are realising that. It seems ridiculous so many people here in the comments think they know so much about psychopaths. Hopefully though you can earn money or at least provide insight to others on how psychopaths think to researchers etc by observing the comments and emails. I'm expecting soon you'll drop the facade.

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Anonymous said...

Anon May 16, 2016 12.16 PM
My thoughts exactly - and he seems to be having increasing difficulty adopting this mask now that it's not furthering his goal. Pity, because at the start this blog was a valuable resource, until he decided to use it as a tool. But that in itself is enlightening.

Anonymous said...

Wow comments are all over the place here. Why is everyone pretending here? Some pretending to be good some pretending to be bad. It's a little comical. I appreciate the discussion though. But people its simple psychopaths do not care for others. Yes zhawq is probably doing self discovery amongst other beneficial stuff I guess. N to the guy who said he has thoughts of killing, that doesn't make you a psychopath just someone in need of help.

Hybrid said...

Here are my thoughts on your article, Zhawq.

I have been asked why I, as a psychopath, care about doing 'something good'. I have also tried to answer but perhaps not as clear as I would want to, so here below is an example of my reasoning and how it in my opinion leads naturally to the conclusion that what is good for me is good for everybody - in the long run, at least.
Well I can’t refute that deduction provided of course it is confined to the ranges you outline in this post.

There is undeniably a shift from the more immediate presence oriented gratification seeking which ruled my motivation during my teens and earlier adulthood, but - as I believe I have stated elsewhere - there is also an element of me wanting to try something new which - combined with all that I have learned over the past 5-6 years since I began looking deeper into what kind of person I am and how it affects not only my past but also the possibilities for my future - has led to what I guess I will call a wider perspective that allows me to include more elements into my considerations when I decide what kind of achievement to aim for and with which approach to do so.
I can understand this from a psychopath’s viewpoint, in the context of a sort of ‘experiment’ borne from a desire to try the unfamiliar rather than replicating past experiences (Been there – Done that)

I hope the following gives some insight into my thinking and how I form what to me are logical conclusions.
And logical conclusions are the psychopath’s default.

Hybrid said...

Cont.

As for welfare, I believe it's possible to find a place between zero aid and completely giving over all your money and freedom of choice in exchange for an illusion of complete security (as we see it done in some Northern European countries).
I share this opinion, but it seems the ‘powers that be’ never attain this balance anywhere on this planet, for reasons known only to them.

I believe medical aid, schools and minimum wage should be available to everybody regardless of economical or social status. If we don't make sure to provide these basic things we'll miss out on a lot of people who could have grown up to become acknowledged as great geniuses and the country's greatest contributors.
What a tremendous waste of valuable resources that could have benefited the world at large, the extent to which we may never know.

Without these basic rights things like mere survival, good health and education would simply be passed down almost exclusively within the families of those who are wealthy and rich, but there's no reason to expect the most ingenious and talented people to be born in these families more than they do in any other group of society. Some will argue that genes run within families, but propensity for developing skill, gaining knowledge and for using these in a way that contributes to and helps the country has only little to do with genetics but a good deal more with a combination of nurture, circumstance and chance.
Exclusivity is the goal of the upper echelons. Your point is well illustrated by cases where someone with a background of poverty and the hardship it breeds overcomes obstacles and realizes their potential, so becoming an asset to humanity.

It has furthermore been proven that goodwill and consideration toward others is more often found and taught within less well to do groups in society (for obvious reasons).
Having faced difficult situations and financial restraints in my past, eg driving a car that frequently broke down; those that stopped to assist were always from the ‘lower ranks’ while others simply drove on. I have never forgotten this.

So for the sake of the country and thereby for the individual citizen's chance and freedom to pursue personal happiness, we have better take providing fundamental circumstances that allow for everyone to acquire medical aid and education into consideration……
Adequate medical aid is simply a matter of basic human rights and it is to our shame that this is not universally available. Regarding education, this quote from Horace Mann says it all “Education then, beyond all other devices of human origin, is the great equalizer of the conditions of men, the balance-wheel of the social machinery.”

…… since it will benefit each of us, not only in terms of personal survival here and now in the form of achievement and wealth, but also in terms of a more long term survival in the form of passing on our genes, and finally in terms of the country's survival and thereby the best possible circumstances for our families to thrive and continue our legacy.
As for the long term survival of our species I get how you follow this line of thought, but feel a bit perplexed by “our families” and “our legacy” as from my understanding psychopaths have no feeling of connectedness.

Sorry about long post but it was the only way I could think of responding to each point.

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

Hello everybody, I'm - finally - back. I've been ill and in hospital, hence the long time since I posted your comments. It is also the reason why I haven't been able to respond to any of them.

I am still not well and I have some private struggles I must attend to in order to survive, so my presence here in the coming weeks will be sporadic. Rest assured, I am not gone forever, though.

I still have so much to say and I will eventually find time to both answer your emails and comments and to publish new material.

It's been a rough ride, and still is in many respects, but I am in good spirits and the 'plan' that I have mentioned at an earlier point is still progressing in spite of the latest setback.

Thank you for your comments and for the awesome support you have shown me in emails and elsewhere, it is truly appreciated.

I hope I (still) have your understanding... and your patience. '^L~,

P.S. Follow me on Twitter and possibly on Facebook, I will post links to articles or videos that I find of value and make personal statements there regularly.

Anonymous said...

Glad you're back, Zhawq.
"Do not go gentle into that goodnight."

GOD said...

"What now lonely man, who is standing in the....."

You dont wanna die do you ?!

Time to stop feeling sorry about shit and join the cultural revolution.

Time to wake up zhawk.

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

Anon June 25.-16, 10:44 AM

Thanks buddy. No, I don't plan to go into that night, good, bad or otherwise just yet - and when I do it is not very likely to happen in a gentle way either. :)

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

In response to that great quote on June 28.-16, 8:50 PM,

I have to ask: What kind of cultural revolution do you have in mind?

You know, I've always felt in a sense that I'm smack in the middle of a cultural revolution, but it can be very hard to get others to understand what's happening right in front of them so they live on as if thinking about something else and behaving as if everything is fine will make all their demons and all the issues that they themselves have created, or have and are helping to create, magically disappear over night.

Now that things slowly have begun to take physical form some people have also begun to wake up and become more willing to listen, I think it's only a matter of time before the rest will be forced to make a decision as well.

And just to be clear: I'm talking about cultural revolution is the broadest and most narrow sense you can possible think of, namely religious-cultural-political all in one.

I do have quite a few more things to say on this topic, but it belongs in an article. Maybe I'll quote your quote in a future article where I go more into depth about where I stand in all this.

If I've completely misunderstood where you were going with what you wrote, I'd love to hear what you meant because it's an interesting quote I like things that makes a guy (or woman) think. '^L^,

Frith said...

Zhawq,
It is good to see you again posting comments and sometimes responding, but I would hesitate to say you are really back in the full sense of the word. Whether due to more pressing priorities, the ‘personal struggles’ you mentioned or that this project no longer motivates you, your presence appears to be superficial compared to previously. I would never pose a question expecting an in-depth reply, or even a reply at all, because I feel you would simply not be interested.
That said this site contains an abundance of valuable information and perspectives in its entirety.
Frith

Zhawq AmaDraque said...

Frith,

I can understand why you have those considerations, but I still think it's too bad that you won't post in depth questions simply because you don't expect me to reply. After all, I have often proven negative expectations wrong, but more to the point, whether or not I actually am able to reply at the time, to post and make those serious questions available for others is in a sense just as important as my answers.

I regret that you feel the way you do and I regret even more that I'm not able to reply as much as I want to. Maybe some day soon....I hope so.

Anonymous said...

I didn't get anything of substance or insight out of the dreadfully dull video clip, but I agree with your perspective on being positive in society - when I have a positive attitude towards society.

When we can get that measure of acceptance and feel as though there is room for us as individuals in the community then it is natural for our solution focused quid pro quo tendencies to take their course and we can be very positive members of society.

Jay

Anonymous said...

Well Zhawq, when directing a question to you personally then it is your response I'm seeking not only for myself but for current readers and hopefully others in time to come.

But yes, your point does make sense. I may well just put out there some reflections on topics which could trigger interest in both psychopaths and non's when readers are actively engaged, such as after an article.

Frith