Thursday, November 14, 2013

Distrust & Disloyalty - Part 1

This article is about Disloyalty and Distrust but also Deceit, and it Represents an Example of The Fact that Psychopaths Can and Sometimes Do Chose to be both Loyal and Undeceiving and to not Abuse Sensitive Knowledge and Secrets that they have Found Out about others.

About 2,5 years ago, not long after I started this blog/website, Psychopathic Writings, I came into Contact with Someone who showed many common Signs of Psychopathy and who Shared my Interest in Finding Other People on the Psychopathy/Sociopathy/Antisocial Personality Disorder spectrum that I might be able to Communicate and Correspond with. This person and I soon began an Interesting correspondence and in spite of the other guy's Paranoia was deeper and more pervasive in a way that is uncommon for psychopaths. I realized there was more to it than met the eye and I began to form an impression of who, or what, I was having exchanges with.

But still, I didn't understand him quite as well as I thought I did - at the time. I will explain why in the following...

All Psychopaths have some degree of Paranoia, it is part of the condition and can sometimes be extensive, but beyond a certain point paranoia stops being a symptom of Psychopathy, or Sociopathy for that matter, and enters the area of what in Clinical Psychology and Psychiatry is called Neuroticism. Being neurotic is something that is decisively not associated with psychopathy, quite the contrary in fact, whereas it is an integrate fundamental part of Antisocial Personality Disorder, and it quickly became obvious to me that my new would-be-friend was not a Psychopath in the clinical sense of the word, he did have Antisocial Personality Disorder.

I have no doubt that he could've made a "great" Sociopath if he was given the chance - as could many people with Antisocial Personality Disorder - but the difference between Sociopathy and Antisocial Personality Disorder is largely decided by circumstance, and the very issue with AsPD (the abbreviation for Antisocial Personality Disorder) is that these people do have the capacity for bonding with specific groups, with ideologies or individuals who represent something that they desire or admire, but they never get the chance to do so because circumstances in their early lives have not provided them with the interpersonal skills that are necessary to create a bond with other people - and especially not with Sociopathic groups and minorities (never mind psychopaths, we hardly ever bond with anybody, and when we do it rarely lasts beyond a few weeks).

But the life circumstances of people with AsPD is not the subject of this article, I wanted to line out the basics because it plays such a fundamental part of the struggles that this person have had to deal with throughout his life which came into expression by the intensity with which he initially wanted my expressed "approval" that he was a Psychopath. He eventually settled for the label Sociopath which I falsely admitted him because his negative feelings toward the label 'AsPD' were so strong and I saw no reason to force the issue of telling him the truth about something that he particularly did not want to be associated with. I thought perhaps he would be more open toward Self Understanding at a later point.


Anonymous said...

How do psychopaths communicate with other psychopaths? Do they just fuck each other over if it's in their favor?

Anonymous said...

lol, nice ending. You sounds like you are getting clearer on the finer differences and mechanics of the antisocial spectrum. This benefits us all, great work.

Illuminance said...

1st poster:

Psychopaths are strong rationalists and observers, are generally analytical of logical patterns of events and behaviors, and inquisitive to the true nature or motive of things. They trust very little of people's publicly declared intentions as being truthful, and/or think that his trust may be compromised by the accidental incompetence of people he views as weak-willed to keeping secrets or stupid enough to unintentionally and unknowingly reveal them.

I doubt they wouldn't be able recognize another psychopath as soon as actions didn't fit words, and not bother playing the game since defector(you) vs defector(them) is the probable outcome, or else the cooperation would have to be a nash equilibrium for the psychopaths.

Anonymous said...

In my experience we focus on mutual benefit and assume that if we cross them they would destroy us, just like we would them. Not all is even, some are far more guarded than others and wouldn't create an opportunity where it could turn ugly. Some of us can communicate telepathically.

Anonymous said...

Do psychopaths feel any emotions? Do you think the endless intellectual quests, analyzing, or excitement-seeking is simply a filler for this void? Just curious,

Anonymous said...

^ yes we feel emotions, there are a couple of emotions we don't, but we just feel them less deeply and less frequently for the most part.

I think the intellectual quests does not apply to all psychopaths, and for those it does is more about getting to objective truth and understanding,as for analyzing

And excitement seeking is about the positive rush , but you a partly right that it is to relieve boredom which I think is related to shallow and fleeting feeling and their frequency.