Friday, July 22, 2011

When You're A Diagnosed Psychopath.


A Reader asks:
Some times you write as if you're angry about being diagnosed as a psychopath. I would like to ask you:
Why do you want so badly to escape your diagnosis? Do you not want to be a psychopath, or to be "that person", the psychopath that you are?  ~Siyah.
The reason I wanted to escape the diagnosis was one thing only: Being a Diagnosed Psychopath gives me a very bad name.

All police precincts, FBI, Interpol, even CIA, have extensive databases where all people who have the psychopathy diagnosis are listed, and they keep track of us in ways that they don't do with normal people. Furthermore, because I have a criminal record and have been to prison, it figures in that regard as well.
Should I ever get into prison again, or be accused of having done a crime, they will assume I did it simply because of my diagnosis. And worst of all: Psychopaths get the hardest sentences a person can get, and in many states and countries we never get parole because they assume we'll go right out and repeat the crime or commit a new one. It's called High Recidivism.

We also can't get a good job, because the good businesses have access to the files where our names are listed. So you see, there're many, many issues associated with having an official psychopathy diagnosis. Strange as it may seem, there is no official psychopathy diagnosis, but there're a number of diagnoses which in combination means the same thing. And yet, nobody have made any effort at hiding from me the fact that they think I am a psychopath, and my diagnosis means I'm a psychopath despite the use of different terminology.

More over, there will be included a more specified psychopathy diagnosis will be included in the DSM-V which is under construction and will be released in 2013. And once that happens my diagnosis will be re-evaluated. I can't avoid it because I am bound by contract to participate on an ongoing basis in a psychopathy research project. Agreeing with this was the only thing that enabled me to be released on parole.

Personally I don't mind being what I am. I like what I, am and how I am, and I've never thought I'm a bad person. Quite the contrary, I think I'm a lot better than probably most people are. Just an example: Many people are hypocrites, but I've never understood why anybody would feel the need to seem like something they're not just because of some moral issue.
When I want to seem like a non-psychopath it is only because I know most people don't understand what a psychopath is, and they think we're just bad, they're biased and will not give a person a chance if they know s/he is a psychopath, or just that s/he is diagnosed as a psychopath. That's another thing I never understood: The blind belief in authority. Everything is okay if an authority said so, that's how most people think, even if they say they don't.

Sure, we psychopaths are bad... also. But there is so much more to a person than having done a few bad things. Okay, I've done many bad things, but that's got a lot to do with circumstances in my life. This is another issue with being a diagnosed psychopath: Any circumstantial facts that may have influenced your decisions and actions in a situation, or throughout your life, don't count. It is all your fault, only you being a psychopath is acknowledged as a reason for any wrong doings on your part.

It almost seems as if people believe that being a psychopath is something you choose yourself too.

When you're a psychopath, those who rule and decide what's right and wrong, good and bad, do not believe we can have bad luck or be unfortunate. They actually believe it is always because we're bad when things go badly and we do bad things.

The real issue in my opinion is one that I have addressed from time to time: Society only operates from the perspective of what is normal... That is, they have taken into account that 'some' people are different in ways the couldn't have chosen to be, and society have taken some - if not exactly enough - measures to compensate for some of the differences.

Examples of this are the physically handicapped, the intellectually challenged, and - in most of the world, but not in all European states, f.x. -  it can also include minorities who have advantages, such as in the cases where special opportunities for intellectually gifted children are given.
Some of the newer progress in this respect deals with a small number of 'disordered' or 'challenged' minorities. I can think of a few like f.x. people and kids who have ADHD, and people with Asperger's Syndrome.

Especially the latter is significant because people with Asperger's are considered 'Empathy Challenged', like psychopaths are. There're other minorities who share the 'empathy challenged' trait, like f.x. with Schizoid Personality Disorder, but I don't know if any measures are taken to support these. Most of the other minorities are significantly different from psychopaths in certain ways the main part of which give them social and personal problems that are easily observable by others, at least in regard to the social aspects of their problems.

And the main element in how normative society decides whether or not they 'like' or 'accept' and want to "help" a certain group of people depends, as I see it, upon how easily observable the differences are. The disabled or challenged minorities that society helps and accepts are the ones that normal people can relatively easily recognize that the individual is different, and how.

This aspect more than anything is what normal people dislike so much about psychopaths: We are not easily recognizable! And we're not generally handicapped or in need of official assistance!...

Sure, some of our traits can often be observed from an early age, but we learn and adapt. Like intellectually gifted people our differences from the norm are in many ways very strong and empowering differences. But we don't receive the understanding nor the recognition that the other minorities receive, and to me that makes it understandable that so many of us develop antisocial attitudes.

I will say more about this in an upcoming article...


16 comments:

Erin said...

Very interesting.I have always thought outside of the box but thought that made me "bad".
I could see that most things people thought were important were stupid.

Anonymous said...

Zhawq,

Thank you for clarifying. I appreciate the detailed response.

Siyah Orkide

Andreas said...

"Strange as it may seem, there is no official psychopathy diagnosis, but there're a number of diagnoses which in combination means the same thing. And yet, nobody have made any effort at hiding from me the fact that they think I am a psychopath, and my diagnosis means I'm a psychopath despite the use of different terminology.


A shameful truth. That is the main reason I'm partial to the term sociopath, since it has a less negative ring to it. Additionally, people often associate being crazy (psychotic) as synonymous; abreviating psychopath and psychotic as both psycho doesn't help much either.

"They actually believe it is always because we're bad when things go badly and we do bad things."

This one creeps me out. There are things I've done, on accident that in retrospect might seem like they were the actions of a P/S. "Oh, you were taking advantage of us, and bilking us of our hard earned money." I imagine them saying. I hate the thought of honest mistakes being revisited as evidence for how "wicked" I am.



"Many people are hypocrites, but I've never understood why anybody would feel the need to seem like something they're not just because of some moral issue."


Oh man, I had a fun conversation with a pathetic wimp of a former 'friend'.
He was completely against the death penalty, but in full support of abortion. (He isn't super left wing, which is odd.)

I asked 'Don't you find the inconsistency odd?'
He said "it wasn't inconsistent".
"Neither people nor society have the right to take someone's life. I'm not okay with that."
'Abortion kills children. Why are you okay with that?'
"They aren't people yet. It's a fetus. Besides, it can't survive on its own. It's practically a parasite. Also, it's the woman's body, she should decide."
'A fetus is a young child. If you didn't intervene, it would have been born and grown up. It's at least 'manslaughter', no? What about after 6months? Then, you often have to directly kill the child, since it is capable of surviving outside the womb; is it not a child then?'
He stuck to the notion that it wasn't a child, not really addressing the last statement. He tried but it was rubbish.

I told him about my not so mild contempt for such inconsistency. Mockingly, I stated: 'I'm not a killer, because what I 'killed' wasn't human.' He was very offended, haha. I also said: 'You do not truly value life. If you did, you would be anti abortion, and anti-death penalty'. He accused me of being pro-life (anti-abortion).

I'm pro abortion, and rather neutral on the death penalty. I believe killing a child is a bad thing but sometimes there is good reason. There are alternatives, like adoption, and birthcontrol :P I think it is ridiculous to pretend what you are doing is perfectly moral; no, it is delusional. If I did that, I wouldn't feel bad but I would be aware of what I had done.

I laughed at his convictions: Killing a wicked adult is heinous, but killing an innocent child is perfectly reasonable? Oh right, it isn't a child, until it is born… UNLESS it was born as part of a third trimester abortion, in which the child will be manually 'killed', since it wasn't born yet, naturally, thus invalid.
Hmm, does that mean you could kill a child from an induced labor? Lol Well, I'm sure there should be a time limit.
And they say WE are bad. Labeling yourself good doesn't make you "good". Furtive emotions can make people so much worse than we "callous" monsters. Being rational is quite reasonable.

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Oh Zhawq, you have been on a roll lately. Those kinds of emotions are SO contemptible!

Anonymous said...

Hey Zhawq,
Its Ma'am.
Thanks for your response recently.
I'll look forward to a YouTube convo. I'll leave it to you to pick the place and time, then? I'm EST for reference.

Wed I was given a copy of a rather fascinating book "People of the Lie". If you've not already read, may I suggest? In it, you may find that there is a significant movement involving folks whom may give you some of the acknowledgement you might desire - taking an excerpt from your latest writing:
"we don't receive the understanding nor the recognition that the other minorities receive, and to me that makes it understandable that so many of us develop antisocial attitudes"

After reading this book, imagine my delight in your last post. As you know, I haven't considered myself a religious fanatic, even religious I'd venture to say. However, I'm open in my spiritual awareness, not invalidating any possibilities.

It is with this awareness that I must wonder about the timing of my reading the book and the receipt of your last post. Purely coincidence? I have not the answer.

But I have much to ponder (as I have been these last few days in reading and reason for absence here). I hope you get the chanced to read this book if you haven't already. For me, it puts faith back into mankind that we CAN be open to heightened awarenesses in ways the logically minded are best at - scientifically :)

Take care & until we 'tube' . . . .
~Peace

Anonymous said...

Why again do you two need a youtube video to talk? The small character limit would make it all the more infuriating. It's the worst medium to discuss things in detail.

Anonymous said...

^Anon
Why again is it any of your biz?

Anonymous said...

You're right, illogical bullshit would be exclusively the business of someone else, I'm too smart for it.

Zhawq said...

Would be easier to simply download Google Talk, I'll admit that.

But ma'am, dear, how about start by sending me a message on Youtube. I'm easy to find, right here. Looking forward to hearing from ya. :)

Zhawq said...

Erin,

they thought you were bad? I can't imagine you as bad, Erin. What kind of community did you grow up in?

Zhawq said...

Good point you bring forth, Andreas. I've had the same kind of discussion on occasion.

Anonymous said...

well written. So have you worked out how to get your support on this website to work to your advantage yet ? Getting paid for this at all? This is a unique and beautifully crafted site, money and power could be created...but I'm sure you know that.

crystal said...

if you been diagnose as bipolar 1 , anxiety, OCD. i wasn't truthful with my doctor. i have killed animals watch them suffer didn't feel anything. what do you think?

Anonymous said...

If diagnosed with psychopathy or sociopathy but lacking a criminal record, would an individual still be on that police list? What about the records businesses can get access to? And what does this do to a person who wants to be a lawyer?

Anonymous said...

When I want to seem like a non-psychopath it is only because I know most people don't understand what a psychopath is, and they think we're just bad

You've raped people... and I would guess you got away with it. You certainly got away with using people as your puppets and psychologically destroying them. You deserve exactly the impression you get from being labelled a psychopath, and a hanging at that.

Anonymous said...

"You've raped people... and I would guess you got away with it. You certainly got away with using people as your puppets and psychologically destroying them. You deserve exactly the impression you get from being labelled a psychopath, and a hanging at that."

Dude, maybe my mind is just skipping the pertinent part of this article but where does it say he's raped anything?

Anonymous said...

Maybe it's just a random dick on the internet, trying to accuse him of a crime. Fucking asshole.