Wednesday, April 6, 2011

Message Board Mud Throwing.



A fellow reader of another blog left a kind post for me that showed he understood the main point about psychopaths not being incompatible with intelligence or intelligently expressing oneself (actually it's the other way around).







I believe my reader gets the picture, yes?

That blog's comment board has been swarmed by trolling children/youths with antisocial traits and self esteem issues who spend most of their time with flame posts and mutual so called 'piss contests', constantly trying to top one another in how "antisocial" they can be.
These kids are emotionally deficit, but also intellectually challenged. The reader who addressed me saw this, and I found this to be an opportunity for me to show my appreciation, but also to use it as a stepping stone to start saying a little bit about those darker sides of me that I rarely touch on.

The reader - I will call him Post2Zhawq - wrote:

I am going to do a bit of projecting here so stay with me.

I think the reason why you get insulted so much is because of the underground sociopath/psychopath match around here.

Basically the person who sounds the most evil, and the most methodological, wins.

It pisses me and others off so much that there exist someone out there who not only can use anyone, but can do it in a speedy fashion, cleaning up and getting away with it. You also get to grab a beer at the end of the day, and still come back and make the kids sob.

So congratulate yourself. You got the emotions of so many people miles away at your disposal, and you didn't even have to try.

It must be some aura.


I wasn't really aware that I got insulted more than everybody else. However, it was obviously meant in a nice way, and I did reply at the time.
Afterwards I returned to my text documents intending to continue with the article I was already working on, when it came to me that there was more I could say, and more I could give as pertaining to the promise I made to my readers about using this blog as a means to provide information that comes directly from the one party we don't often hear much from: Myself, the Psychopath.

So I opened a blank sheet and wrote the following:

Post2Zhawq,
I would add something to my hasty response to you yesterday.
Here it is... comment board style.
You wrote:

"So congratulate yourself. You got the emotions of so many people miles away at your disposal, and you didn't even have to try."

Indeed. It is all so very, very easy. And pretending a little emotion can trigger utter rage in others, as well as deepest love in some - though the last example hasn't been relevant in this case. ;)

I can assert my indifference, or I can pretend to be annoyed, excited, or eager to 'fit in', etc. - you know, all those things that highly emotional people - and especially antisocial kids with narcissistic issues - do (we have a heavy presentation of these latter around here as you've noticed).

At the end of the day it's all my choice, and almost all of my doing as well.

"It pisses me and others off so much that there exist someone out there who not only can use anyone, but can do it in a speedy fashion, cleaning up and getting away with it. You also get to grab a beer at the end of the day, and still come back and make the kids sob."

I see. Yes, I guess it is not exactly the most lovable trait I possess.

Okay, I understand what you mean. And your words actually do fit 'Official Society' better than they fit me, for I am horrible at cleaning up after me, whereas they're damn efficient at it (getting normal people to do it by order).

I will also emphasize that I never did the 'speedy using others' in between more socially acceptable activities on a daily basis, and I don't kill people at all anymore!

It must be some aura.

I have been told the same in various ways over the years, all the way back to my early teens, if not earlier.

The 'insults' you see others throw at me are subtle fear responses, and it's a response that is one of the common experiences that psychopaths share - at least those who have the same combination of classical psychopathy and antisocial traits that I have... I'm almost inclined to say it is common also for those who are not violent criminals.

I'm not kidding you: Every single psychopath I've met and spoken to, or otherwise learned about, have had the experience that you are witnessing and referring to when you say "It must be some aura". Though to you it looks like a case of 'collective insulting', which, I guess in a way, it also is; I'm just not the one who is being insulted, ...well not emotionally, anyway. *S*

Memorize the sensing of 'some aura' that you associate with me, and you have yourself a decent predictor for when you're in the presence of a psychopath, someone who 'might' be a dangerous person.

It's a good thing, it can save your life.

To those who know the truth about me I'd ask:

Why would I be bothered by idiot insults from cyber bullies when I have been the subject for true existential hatred by those who lost a spouse or a friend/family member because of my so called psychopathic boredom?

A tad illogical, no?

If I were receptive to insults, I'd have most likely committed suicide many years ago, like several victims of mine suggested I do. :D

Your sensing my 'aura' tells me I am doing something right... Thank you for taking the time to let me know this!

I wish you Good Luck Ahead!... :)

11 comments:

Haven said...

I never understand the rude antisocial kids. What do they think they're going prove? And who do they think is really going to care?

tik said...

Zhawq, sometime please explain what you've learned about yourself that your changing now. If you are.

If I saw you I could read your aura.
I had a aura photograph taken and it was pure healing. I've been privileged to have had and used for giving healing so I believe the aura has truth.

Your a very stong person and you have a strong presence, I"m sure this has brought you to the point of writting a blog that brings understanding.

ZKM said...

I've noticed you getting particularly harassed on other blogs, namely SW. Honestly, I think you just pissed some Anonymous off god knows how long ago and now his whole mission in life is to follow you to the ends of the web and slander your name across message boards everywhere. Just a theory.

Insults entertain me. The whole goal of a successful insult is to emotionally undermine your opponent. It is all so transparent, but reality is so different from the web. Emotionally attacking a psychopath is generally a pointless activity, though I have been surprised and perhaps a bit impressed at a few people's masterful attempts.

Usually though, such attackers are not attacking mentally, they are attacking emotionally. And against any intelligent person that method will fail. I've noticed one of the most common insults slung around this string of 'communities' is "You're not a sociopath!" as if that's somehow offensive? I think I talked about this before, but psychopaths (or at least I) don't have such an attachment to having an 'identity' as normals do. I label myself only for the convenience of communication, not as some gut level, satisfaction at 'fitting in' to a group.

I always wonder at the enjoyment such people get at trolling about the web.

Zhawq said...

tik,

"Zhawq, sometime please explain what you've learned about yourself that your changing now. If you are."

Well, tik, this is not an easy question to answer. I'm not really changing. I never really will change.
But I'm trying to learn, and that may carry some change with itself in that I can make some wiser choices.

My motives will always be self serving and gratification, there's no way I can change that. But if I can learn how to do that in a way that is more pleasurable to both myself and others I'll possibly not end up in prison so often, and that's one of my goals.

It's not an easy one to reach though, not when you have antisocial traits such as I do.


"Your a very stong person and you have a strong presence"

Yes, I have been told this often.


"I"m sure this has brought you to the point of writting a blog that brings understanding."

Thank you for those words, tik. I hope it will bring understanding on many levels. :)

Zhawq said...

ZKM,

"I've noticed you getting particularly harassed on other blogs, namely SW. Honestly, I think you just pissed some Anonymous off god knows how long ago and now his whole mission in life is to follow you to the ends of the web and slander your name across message boards everywhere. Just a theory."

Haha. Yeah, well there've been others who were targeted before I took over. This is my own doing, more or less anyway.

I have a knack for getting a few lines in where they hurt, I can't help it, and I think it's utterly funny. When these people react the way we see here, I know I've won. I can see their pain, every little reaction of this sort says it all. It's hilarious, really.

I can almost think it's a shame that it has to be on M.E.'s board though, since he's not to blame. Then again, he seems to be comfortable with it. :)

As for whether it is one person? It isn't. I would recognize such an individual. I know who I have 'touched', and I know them well. It's not a big deal, anyone could do it, really. These idiots are transparent beyond measure.


"Insults entertain me."

Insults in an of themselves are usually rather inane. But it all depends, and it sure can make a good pass time. :D


"The whole goal of a successful insult is to emotionally undermine your opponent."

Indeed. And there's the funny thing: When you can get people to slander you, you know you've 'touched' them. :)


"It is all so transparent"

Well, not always. I've gone through some fun fights that had several levels to unwind before things fell into place.
But those were on a completely different type of fora though.


"but reality is so different from the web."

Oh yes, the two things are hardly comparable.


"Emotionally attacking a psychopath is generally a pointless activity"

Exactly. But how would a non-psychopath know this? It is how you can tell a psychopath from one who is not one: The psychopath has no need to 'fit in' or to even defend themselves, we may do so if we can get to someone else by doing it. And such situations do happen. It's all very circumstantial.


"though I have been surprised and perhaps a bit impressed at a few people's masterful attempts."

Yes? I'm curious, please tell me?

I've seen this done once by someone who wasn't themselves a psychopath. But in all fairness, it was the psychopath who started it, he just didn't realize the intellect of his opponent until things had begun.
But like every psychopath, he quickly realized what was going on and evaded an unfortunate development of the situation.
I'm not sure if the non-psychopath saw that this was what he did, since non-psychopaths think differently than us, but I certainly saw it.

Zhawq said...

Well that became longer than the default blogger settings will allow...

"Usually though, such attackers are not attacking mentally, they are attacking emotionally."

You've understood it well, my friend. :)


"And against any intelligent person that method will fail."

Emotional attacks will fail against any intellect. Emotion can only win against a weaker emotion, not against intellect.


"I've noticed one of the most common insults slung around this string of 'communities' is "You're not a sociopath!" as if that's somehow offensive?"

Lol, yeah it was one of the first things I used to tick people off at M.E.'s comment board. Very shortly after I arrived I began pointing out how weak it is to attempt a stance on basis of level of Sociopathy. But I've seen the same elsewhere.

It's become the latest trend, you see.
It's "cool" to be a Sociopath among these AsPD kids, and they don't realize they're our (psychopaths', and sometimes Sociopaths') easiest targets.


"I think I talked about this before, but psychopaths (or at least I) don't have such an attachment to having an 'identity' as normals do."

That's true.


"I label myself only for the convenience of communication, not as some gut level, satisfaction at 'fitting in' to a group."

Yep, this is how it is. ;)


"I always wonder at the enjoyment such people get at trolling about the web."

I've figured it out in most cases. They're people who are generally social outcasts, and this is their last attempt at getting into some kind of socially accepted position, if only in their minds, at least it tastes a little bit of 'something'.
This is how it is in the cases with people who want to be bad ass Sociopaths.

There're other kinds of trolling that differ only in that they're not specifically directed at being Sociopaths. But fundamentally their situations are usually the same.

Of course there're the cases where someone has become obsessed with trying to down someone else, but that's not quite the same as trolling.

Zhawq said...

Haven,

"I never understand the rude antisocial kids. What do they think they're going prove? And who do they think is really going to care?"

good question. Especially since people tell them over and over that NOBODY DOES care.

I think it just shows even more that these kids are slightly retarded in a way, no? ;)

Anonymous said...

"I'm not sure if the non-psychopath saw that this was what he did, since non-psychopaths think differently than us, but I certainly saw it."

The non-psychopath saw it. It was amusing. They ignored it purposely to protect the group.

Ava said...

Am a newcomer to the site just to get some insight as I just gave one of you guys the heave ho, and you wanna know why? Because he was boring me with his supposed profound musings,unbelieveable promises and continual lying to himself and everyone around him to the point of utter delusion. His emptiness kept screaming out for attention.Such a pity and waste of good oxygen just because someone is bored. He kept trying to be normal, good thing I kept myself at arms length and realized early on he was an imposter.My big clue came when he didn't want to watch the psychopath in the movie No Country for Old Men. Like looking in the mirror. Such a waste of MY GOOD TIME and that's the real tragedy of it all. I suspect that his only real sorrow, if you can call it that, is that he now has no one to listen to his boring stories? Likely now entertaining himself looking for another unsuspecting replacement? What do you think?

JoAnn Sanders said...

Long story short, I had a child with an undiagnosed psychopath. Yes, he has attempted to destroy my life, but was unsuccessful at it. Us "normals" have emotions, as well as a different thinking structure than a psychopath; but in no way does this mean that A "normal" is not incapable of indifference & detachment. I was a strong, independent woman before I met him, & am still the same, now that he's gone. Isn't there a detector that psychopaths have that allows them to sense out their prey? It seems that my ex lacked the wherewithal & mental sophistication to carry out his covert plan on me. We remain cordial, as we share a child & my life is better after him, however, he has not had another relationship since me & we broke up ten years ago.

The best way to win a game is to not play at all.

Zhawq said...

JoAnn Sanders,

normal people are of course capable of being indifferent towards things, we all know that and I'm sure we wouldn't want it any other way.

Having the capacity to feel empathy and remorse does not mean you can't not feel either of the two as well, though there are people who have difficulty keeping a healthy emotional distance where it doesn't serve anybody any good to invest it.

You can say that those people sit at the opposite extreme from where psychopaths are on the emotional continuum.

You wrote:
"The best way to win a game is to not play at all"

You can only win if you play. The key is to pick your game carefully and make sure you have a saying in what the rules are and how they're laid out.

And while this can clearly prove difficult sometimes, I still think most people will agree that it is better to have played and participated in life than to not have played at all and therefore never have had experienced neither loss nor victory, because that would be an empty life indeed, and more sad than one where losses have been dealt, but where victories have been won to form fond memories and lasting resources for joy, fun, and maybe even happiness.

It's good to hear that you put his destructive ploys to shame. I hope he's a good dad - but you best be attentive to the possibility that he may try to use your son (but I think you know that).

Good luck ahead. '^L^,