Thursday, March 17, 2011

We Can't Be Tamed!


We can't be tamed, it's in our DNA. And we want to part of... something... I don't know!


I think the right phrase for the 'something' that we in certain ways can never understand would be: Everything.
We want to be part of Everything!...

And so far, I say, we're not doing badly.


I thought this tune was right for this website in several ways, one of which would be that it shows the aspect of that insatiable thirst in the general public to get a peak at the Strange Birds that they think we are.

And just like birds we come in many colors, shapes and sizes.
Some of us are colorful indeed, whereas others like to take the quieter approach - at least when it's not in connection with something that pertains to actually economic or other gain, which isn't hard to understand. Which approach you take and how you choose to portray yourself in a given setting depends on a lot of things, most of which are impossible to see as an observer - and not least on an Internet basis.

There're pros and cons in everything you do, and preferences vary in between individuals. This is no different for psychopaths. In many ways we're disappointingly human, just like the normal people who's empathy, remorse and quiet living we will never be able to truly understand - except maybe from an intellectual perspective....which is the reason that many psychopaths have a preference for exactly that!...Yeah, I know: Surprise indeed!

But I'm merely telling you the truth. That's what I made this blog to do, and that's what I'll continue doing, and you can take it or leave it, it's all the same to me. I am, after all, writing as much for my own pleasure as for the pleasure of bringing some knowledge to others and hopefully some debate as well between myself and my readers.

Nevertheless, we're a rare species, but unlike much of the wildlife variety all over the globe, we're nowhere near extinction - just like normal people. We're here to stay. What's more, we know how to fight, and we're not afraid of breaking the rules and cheat if that's what it takes. I mean, hey, we're known for doing that anyway, so what makes anyone think we'd do differently when it comes to our survival?

So many normal people think we're somehow primitive, that we're not capable of doing a lot of things many of which somehow pertains to thought process. They think that if we do or say things this or that way, then we can't possibly be psychopaths.

But even though it is comforting to know that this is how people think, since it means all we have to do is impress them in one way or another in order to not be considered psychopathic (apart from the fact that clinical psychologists don't follow that notion anymore than we do), which - on a different note - is how we've been doing things all along (or how we've been fooling you people, if you like that version better), it is still a mistake.

Somebody - a debate participant on another blog who was really very nice and meant well - wrote to me: "Zhawq, you're not a psychopath, because you have insight!". But there's no truth in it, it's a grave mistake to think that way.

When it comes to what psychopaths can or cannot do, I'll just say: You people have no idea!!

4 comments:

ZKM said...

You know, I've found Psychopaths are a lot like bisexuals. Not in actual practice (although I've noticed a tendency toward open orientation among socios) but in how they're perceived in their community. Heterosexuals always call them gay and homosexuals always call them straight.

I think the issue stems from Empaths' obsession with having a unique Identity. Everything and everyone must be neatly labelled, and someone accusing you of stepping out of your box is offensive to the extreme.

I don't think some people understand that as an empty human being you aren't limited to being expressionless. You're actually freed to be anything or anyone. I am not one dimensional. Sure, I have no guilt, feel no empathy. People assume that just because I don't feel deep emotions that I can't express them. That's laughable! I show kindness, affection and caring on a daily basis, sometimes with no direct benefit to myself, simply because I feel like it. That doesn't make me human.

I have actually found that despite how empty I may be inside, I prefer to express myself in a hyperbolas, arrogant, narcissistic way to people of like minds whenever possible. Why? Because it entertains me. I feel no need or desire to defend an identity I don't possess to the masses. I think that's one thing empaths can never understand about us. Much like we can't understand their emotions except for on an intellectual level, they can't comprehend that our actions and our words don't paint an honest picture.

TheNotablePath said...

I saw a lot of symbolism in this video... The bird of prey in the guise of a pretty girl, droves of friends who seem completely feral in comparison, and the cage that surrounds her that only the fools who look on think can hold her. I found this all very appropriate too.

God, I hear that stupid. "You're clearly this or that," way too much. You know what, maybe I am, but how would you know? If a trained clinician can't tell the difference between Aspergers and Sociopathy, how the hell is a layman supposed to know the difference between a Narcissist and a Psychopath based off a few friggin' comments?

Disappointingly human. True that. Sure, we're very different with some things, but we eat food, drink water, fuck, sleep, talk, walk, and nod our heads and bear our fists when needed.

Zhawq said...

ZKM:

"Heterosexuals always call them gay and homosexuals always call them straight."

I see. This is not my personal experience at all. But maybe we're talking about two slightly different things - I'm not sure, but you mention 'socios'; that would be Sociopaths, yes? - Strangely though, I think it's even less the case with them, but I could be wrong. I'm not certain about anything regarding this topic, really.

Only one thing do I feel some certainty about: Psychopaths very often do not have the same "fundamental identification" with their sexuality as do most other people.

Maybe it's a question about a higher occurrence of 'androgynous' thinking among psychopaths.


"I think the issue stems from Empaths' obsession with having a unique Identity."

I used to see it like that too. But I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps it isn't something so deeply inbuilt in them that they really have no choice but to feel that way. If that is the case, we're no longer talking about an obsession but about actual reality as they perceive it.


"You're actually freed to be anything or anyone. I am not one dimensional. Sure, I have no guilt, feel no empathy. People assume that just because I don't feel deep emotions that I can't express them."

This is how I feel about it too.


"That's laughable! I show kindness, affection and caring on a daily basis, sometimes with no direct benefit to myself, simply because I feel like it. That doesn't make me human."

Okay, a small difference here: I think this is exactly what does make us human!

Being human is not defined by a small number of specific emotions - even though it's very popular to think so, and people constantly refer to us as not human because we don't feel exactly these few kinds of emotions - or at least not in the sense that they do.

But being human is a large variety of phenomena, expressing yourself and communicating by the use of facial expressions is one way of doing that. The emotions that makes the basis for expression is a whole different layer of what it is to be human.

Take f.ex. Formalism. It is widely used to show others certain formalized ways of communicating that you understand a certain context and the rules of behavior that applies. But it rarely means that you feel much anything except the wish to show that you understand and are a willing participant.


"Much like we can't understand their emotions except for on an intellectual level, they can't comprehend that our actions and our words don't paint an honest picture."

True indeed.

However:

"I feel no need or desire to defend an identity I don't possess to the masses."

This can change very quickly depending on the circumstances! ;)

Zhawq said...

Notable:

"I saw a lot of symbolism in this video..."

Yes, it's one of the aspects of the video I like about it.

Most music videos have a lot of symbolism....excepted of course the many newer generation videos that have the performer standing on a pedestal, abstracted from everything else, so the focus can be solely on his/her idealistic godlike state - which I find incredibly boring and uninspiring.

What I picked up on in this video was exactly the symbolism, plus the fact that it has so many references to what we - us, the 'antisocial' minority and rebellious free thinking - stand for.

Just notice the lines: "I can't be tamed! I want to be part of something new ... something I don't (already) know!" and "It's not a phase, it's in my DNA!".

That, and the fact that she's adorable! :D


"the cage that surrounds her that only the fools who look on think can hold her. I found this all very appropriate too."

I absolutely agree!


"If a trained clinician can't tell the difference between Aspergers and Sociopathy, how the hell is a layman supposed to know the difference between a Narcissist and a Psychopath based off a few friggin' comments?"

Lol, well said.

And I do wonder: Is it really true they can't tell the difference between Asperger's and Sociopathy? Man, that's weird.

I also heard they can't tell the difference between Asperger's and Psychopathy, but there I'm fairly sure it is because a psychopath didn't want them to see the difference - or, if he didn't know he's a psychopath, it's because he's with-holding a lot of facts he knows doesn't sound good, such as crimes he's committed and feelings he don't feel. I'm sure these things can be rephrased and masked.

After all, if the clinician is schooled in Asperger's but doesn't know very much about psychopathy, then it would be easy to make that mistake - I guess ('I guess' because I'm not overly knowledgeable about Asperger's, though I'm learning these days from an aspie friend and his companieros).

On the notion about mixing up Narcissism with Psychopathy and AsPD etc., there's actually talk about merging the two conditions.
However, I'm quite sure it will not happen. There are distinct differences.
I'll take it up in a future article.


"Sure, we're very different with some things, but we eat food, drink water, fuck, sleep, talk, walk, and nod our heads and bear our fists when needed."

Yes, in my eyes there's so much about us that says 'Human' all over the place! ;)